I have been approached to join the Quixtar pyramid scheme again. Their explanation of how it works just doesn’t make sense.
Beware of people who want to talk about business opportunities and have a bww.com e-mail address on their business cards.
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One tactic that I’ve noticed is frequently used by Quixtar IBO’s on this thread is to deny involvement in Quixtar. They seem to think they can appear to be impartial observers who think Quixtar is a good idea. This goes back to the very first comment in 2003 where John claims to love Quixtar even though he’s not involved in it. This tactic really doesn’t fool anyone who follows this thread. It is amusing though.
That’s better Jeff. Your reply lived up to my expectations this time as pathetic as it is! The hooked on phonics tapes comment, classic! It was funny! I think you are taking it to personally though. Its ok Jeff, your not the only one that is a pussy in the real world and lives out his tough guy fantasy by hiding behind a computer screen with all the attitude they don’t have the balls to have in the real world. You know why that is Jeff? Its because your weak! You have no balls, so you relieve all that negative bent up energy into something stupid like this because it is safe. However your point is remarkably simpler to your 1st post so Im bored with you already. I have nothing else to type about you accept a couple final things. Here is the first step of the recovery process too you being a pussy. Nicely ask your wife/girlfriend (if you have one) if you can have your balls back. If she says no she probliby has them in her purse. If you don’t have a wife/girlfriend then you are a loser that is shy and scared of women in which case you were born without any balls and you are just screwed. I can’t even begin to imagine how big of a geek you must be. As for the rest of your retarded comments, I really don’t give a shit this is just cheap entertainment for me. I just love to fuck with people. Don’t waste your time retyping reference to all my spelling errors and grammatical fuckups. Everyone can read they don’t need you to point them out. Finally in reference to your hint hint, I will come here as often as I want, it is not a privet site. It is not my fault you can’t handle the truth about your pathetic life!
Now this one is full of cry baby teen angst. You angsty little man, you. Well…time to knock you down again…remember…you started it…
That’s right it’s time for Quixtar Cut and Paste!
Ben-”Its ok Jeff, your not the only one that is a pussy in the real world and lives out his tough guy fantasy by hiding behind a computer screen with all the attitude they don’t have the balls to have in the real world”
Funny you say that. Can I get a ruling here? So far you’ve told us that you were just surfing the net, you find this page and immediately go into a “tough guy fantasy” mode. Insulting people left and right. A psychologist would have a field day with you. You are the only one doing this very crime you speak of. So, this comment refers to you.
On another note, I ACTUALLY, bite my tongue an incredible amount when on this post. I am more outspoken in real life.
Ben-”You have no balls, so you relieve all that negative bent up energy into something stupid like this because it is safe”
…uh, That would be you…everyone else was having a debate…. ??? We also, in this statement, see the start of your homo-erotic fantasies about my balls. You sick puppy.
Ben-”However your point is remarkably simpler to your 1st post so Im bored with you already. I have nothing else to type about you accept a couple final things. Here is the first step of the recovery process too you being a pussy”
Now the first part of this is just a copout. Then we get into your recovery process, which is all based on unhealthy relationships with women. The psychologists are going crazy. You speak to me as if I have problems with women when it was unprompted and unwarranted. I would bet this is you. Where the hell did all this come from? I’ll tell you. It came from you, this is your “bent” up frustration.
No need to cut and paste your sick obsession with my balls, you nasty, nasty girl…
Ben-”As for the rest of your retarded comments, I really don’t give a shit this is just cheap entertainment for me. I just love to fuck with people.”
Once again, a copout. That means you’re running, you know, like a pussy, but you’re doing it ON the computer. Strange.
Ben-”Finally in reference to your hint hint, I will come here as often as I want, it is not a privet site.”
Not only is this a child like statement (e.g. It’s a free country!) but how in the hell does this reference my hint? My hint was you’re an idiot…..actually I take that back. You couldn’t comprehend the comment and therefore reinforced the fact that you’re an idiot. Congrats!….You make us all laugh.
Ben-”It is not my fault you can’t handle the truth about your pathetic life!”
Straight out of a Hallmark movie! I can totally see you punching the wall and running off and crying! After all the transgression you make this statement. Let me help you (for real) Read you post out loud and whenever it says: JEFF substitute it with the name: BEN or DAD. This will help you.
Once again my favorite quote: “I may be an idiot and a loser for using a comma in the wrong way, but at least I can read.” -Ben IT’S HILARIOUS!!!! Change your tone or I will get insulting.
Thanks for the fun, Keep dreaming of my balls.
How is this not a private site? As of the last time I talked to Matt, he still pays for it and has total control of it. It is only because Matt is a very tolerant person that he allows nutjobs to continue posting. As soon as someone goes a little too far with the insults, he’ll drop the ax. It is very much a private site.
Also, I have to comment about the tendency for Q-bots to categorize and stereotype others. This must be part of the brainwashing process. According to Ben, all Catholic priests, homosexuals, and guys who don’t feel the need to be involved in a relationship at the moment are losers. I’m just glad we have Ben around to point out who is a loser and who isn’t.
I’m going to remove any further comments by Ben. Not so much because of his insults, which are enough to get him banned. Mostly, I just don’t want to force anyone to have to read something so incredibly stupid. Seriously. It amazes me that he can even use a computer.
Wow, I am being banned from a site that was designed to insult people because I insulted someone. That is ironic. It is strange how defensive you all get when the tables are turned. You don’t seem to like being called names or being “called out” yet that is all you do to others. You have little regard for other people feelings yet are so sensitive of your own. You say it’s a debate yet every other post is nothing more than a bunch of childish name calling of people trying to make money. A debut is two sided. You can’t call it a debut when your banning people for attacking you tactics. You keep calling me an idiot for the things that I type yet most of the things you all type are equally stupid and insulting and Im not talking about me I had it coming I know that but most others don’t. There is just no one the other side of your one sided debate banning you from the site. Every time someone types a good positive post about how this business positively affected their life the replies that follow are filled with childish name calling and unwarranted accusations. Kind of like the ones Jeff was accusing me of. You people are rude and unprofessional in your so-called debate. You provoke people by insulting their livelihood and complain when they react negatively. Look how Jeff reacted to me. So how can you blame them for lashing back? That should not have any reflection on the company, THAT’S STUPID! You are provoking the employees of businesses then using their reactions as ammunition to attack their employer. Strange debate. I will admit I was out of line in my post. I was just trying to have a little fun with it. It seems as though no one truly fought back so I aggressively did and the reactions speak for themselves. My point is proven. The harsh nature of my attack had a tactical purpose and it worked. You were attacked and you responded in an equally aggressive manner. Does this sound familiar. Im done I will not be coming back Im banned anyway have fun picking this one apart if matt, the divine god who judges the entire one sided debate will allow me one last post. Wow, what a power trip. I understand matt. I was a little distracting in your debate. I got everyone so agitated they forgot what they were for. We got to stay on task. You are 5 years into a debate and trying to destroy a business. Just a few questions before I leave if you please. What is your deadline? Are you on track? Who’s judging this debate, and who’s ahead?
Never mind. I’m leaving your comments up. Pure comedy gold.
I don’t understand the assumption that this site was “designed to insult people”. As far as I can tell, Matt’s original post for this thread was designed to help people avoid a pyramid scheme. I certainly don’t post here to insult people or even debate anyone.
Anyone who reads my comments will notice that I rarely speak directly to Quixtar IBO’s. My comments are intended to be directed to people who have been approached by a pyramid scheme participant and are considering the pros and cons. As an owner of successful businesses, I know there are many ways to make a good living. Pyramid schemes are not one of them.
Thanks for leaving it, Matt. You are a wise and just divinity with a great sense of humor.
Ben does a better job of making himself and quixtar look stupidn without comments by critics. He hasn’t made a single point about why quixtar is a viable business. He wants to attack the critics with pointless drivel. It is my opinion that many quixtar recruiters like to go after people in need, of lower economic status. That’s why some of these guys actually think $4000 a month is a great income. Ben whines about a “debut” being two sided. Ben, it’s called a “debate”. However, people who debate make points. All you’re doing is entertaining us with your whining and crying. Why not try actually making a point? Maybe then we have something to debate.
I haven’t made a point about why quixtar is a viable business because I don’t care. I don’t care for the same reason you shouldn’t care. Im not involved in it and it doesn’t affect me. That’s my point. When a telemarketer calls me I tell them Im not interested and not to call me again then I hang up the phone. I don’t start a web page warning people of a telemarketing scam and then debate it for years because it would be stupid and a waste of time. That’s the main point I have been trying to make. Im attacking the stupidity of this site, and the people who have posted on it for years. I was bored like I said earlier and tried to have some fun with you all. It is stupid that I keep coming back I will admit, and like I said earlier I will get bored and quit shortly. I just feel I need to clarify my position first because I feel some of my intention has been misconstrued. Hopefully you will all get a life and do something more constructive with your time.
Haha Ben, that’s why this site was started. Hopefully IBOs will get a life and do something constructive with their time instead of losing money chasing a dream via a pyrmid scheme.
Wow, I am amazed on how retarded that last post is. You obviously missed the point. Reread my post and maybe it will sink in this time “joecool”. You call yourself “JOECOOL”, that explains everything. I wont even go their it will take to long to type. Im glad you found some friends who think you are “COOL” joey. You are retarded. Good job joey, you are the best, keep it up!
Wow, Ben haven’t been reading those self improvement books much huh? Maybe quixtar doesn’t make you a better person afterall?
Is Ben still building the business?
……hello…….HELLO!?
I’m still here. What happened to all the IBOs? They must have gone diamond and they’re now walking the beaches of the world with the cash rolling in by the wheelbarrows. :P
Not much going on in the Amway world right now. However, IBOs are stil getting fleeced via tape and seminars.
Some Amway supporters have claimed that Amway is losing an internet war against critics. Keep up the good work here!
http://www.amquix.info/kosage.html
http://cloudedpawn.blogspot.com/
1 Because they lie. They lie about the nature of the company. They pretend to be one thing when they are really something else. When people want to show you the plan, they lie or trick you into coming. They lie about how much effort it takes to be successful. They lie about the economics behind the company, and about where the successful ones make most of their money. They lie to themselves about their motivations and their likelihood of succeeding. They deliberately try to portray a lifestyle of wealth, whether they are actually wealthy or not.
Triple Diamond’s home in foreclosure:
http://www.amquix.info/amwayrealestate_crisis.html
http://www.amquix.info/amwayrealestate_crisis.html
Sorry, the link didn’t work. Go to http://www.amquix.info
The article is there. WWDB triple diamond’s home being foreclosed.
Well, alas, I believe the last of them is gone.
Jeff, they’re not gone. They just hang out at a website where only kool aid drinking droogies hang out.
(Amway Talk Forum)
That is because everyone else got smart. Great job Ben that was some pretty good stuff! I think you would make a great IBO. If you are interested in business, email me your contact information. http://www.maveron18@aol.com. I don’t guarantee anything but the truth. The rest is up to you! As for you two (Jeff and Joecool) enjoy yourselves. It seems as though you are the only ones left. Keep it up boys, your doing a great job! YA YA!
Hey Aaron, did you know that solicting business online is against quixtar rules? I have forwarded your email and message to quixtar for disciplinary action. See how independent you are? Not many visit this site now because thet are all quitters and losers and lack the guts to keep building the business. LOL Most IBOs are simply future critics. LOL
The funniest shit ever.
Enjoy your little spanking, Aaron.
It looks like the critics have ultimately triumphed.
I guess so.
And so it was that the internet folded in upon itself.
More news. Triple diamond Greg Duncan files for bankruptcy:
World Wide Dreambuilder’s Triple Diamond and former IBOAI board of director Greg and Laurie Duncan have been in bankruptcy court since Sep. 11 2007! A site visitor notified me of the bankruptcy after checking up on their numerous houses that were in foreclosure last year. All of Cuncan’s properties have now been sold off. He has supposedly move to California now. The Duncan’s listed assets of $63 million and debts of $8.4 million. Despite having millions in net worth, the Duncan’s cannot service all their debts.
The Duncan’s owed $1.7 million to the IRS for back taxes and penalties and $452,000 to the State of Montana for back taxes.
In April of 2008, the Duncan’s filed a reorganization plan and disclosure statement under court sealing that was later unsealed when it went into Chapter 7. He is supposedly fighting to get back into chapter 11.
Supposedly $9 million of Duncan’s cash got drained away in a lawsuit over the rights to sell he XS energy drink. I obtained documentation of a suit involving the XS energy drink brand with a company called Cetalon. Cetalon claimed it was given marketing rights for the XS brand and was suing for its piece of the pie after Quixtar became a major buying. Greg Duncan was named as a defendant, and Cetalon went bankrupt. The Cetalon case was dropped and is rumored to have settled for $7.5 million.
I read once that the XS energy drink is 10% of Quixtar’s sales. All Amway needs to do to bury another king pin diamond is to drop the XS contract and this would throw the rest of Duncan’s paper fortune in the trash.
All the bankruptcy documents are public record on Pacer.
Is quixtar dead yet?
Joecool’s blog: http://amwayscheme.blogspot.com/
Yeah Quixtar is dead. They are now called Amway Global. But nothing has changed. IBOs still lose money and the diamonds still rake in the dough from standing order and functions.
http://amwayscheme.blogspot.com/
Hello everyone, I am very excited that I found this site. I am absolutely against the entire quixtar cult. Yes, I called it a cult. It is not the same as telemarketing or even starting your own business. It is something that changes people in very bad ways into awful people. The fact that the sales techniques involve a change in religion, women stop to drinking, a stop to socializing with family and friends who aren’t “in” the business, buying friends and talking up these so called mentors into thinking they solved your marriage and financial problems, referring to the guy as the bread winner when he clearly isn’t… and asking the guy if you can do things like go to lunch at subway. Hey, stepford wives… get a clue, it’s not 1952. Actually do us a favor and stay as far away from the normal citizens of our country. You are an embrassment to our conervative party and to any party for that matter. I feel bad for your parents, what a dissapointment you are to them.