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	<title>Comments on: MS Web Office</title>
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		<title>By: Paul The UnixCentric</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewgifford.com/2005/10/29/ms-web-office/#comment-3252</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul The UnixCentric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, yes and no. You buy a license, and in doing so, have the legal right to operate the software in question. You own your &lt;em&gt;copy&lt;/em&gt; of the software, which is tied directly to the license you purchase. In a way, the license is the software.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I've been thru a few of these legal disputes with companies I worked with. It seems black and white, but as usual in all things legalese, it's all a matter of grey interpretation. :-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And just in case I wasn't being clear, I'm more concerned about the intellectual property than the product &lt;em&gt;(tho I also feel making "online" apps is like stealing consumers' money since they don't "get" anything for their purchases)&lt;/em&gt; -- for example, if the application suite is online, where are the documents stored? Remotely? Unacceptable.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yes and no. You buy a license, and in doing so, have the legal right to operate the software in question. You own your <em>copy</em> of the software, which is tied directly to the license you purchase. In a way, the license is the software.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thru a few of these legal disputes with companies I worked with. It seems black and white, but as usual in all things legalese, it&#8217;s all a matter of grey interpretation. :-)</p>
<p>And just in case I wasn&#8217;t being clear, I&#8217;m more concerned about the intellectual property than the product <em>(tho I also feel making &#8220;online&#8221; apps is like stealing consumers&#8217; money since they don&#8217;t &#8220;get&#8221; anything for their purchases)</em> &#8212; for example, if the application suite is online, where are the documents stored? Remotely? Unacceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewgifford.com/2005/10/29/ms-web-office/#comment-3250</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;technically you don't own your applications whether you have them on or offline, right?  you just license them?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>technically you don&#8217;t own your applications whether you have them on or offline, right?  you just license them?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul The UnixCentric</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewgifford.com/2005/10/29/ms-web-office/#comment-3248</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul The UnixCentric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 22:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow. A single text entry field that doesn't work. Yep. Another fine M$ product! :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. A single text entry field that doesn&#8217;t work. Yep. Another fine M$ product! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewgifford.com/2005/10/29/ms-web-office/#comment-3247</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 22:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here's the &lt;a href="http://www.live.com/"&gt;demo site&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the <a href="http://www.live.com/">demo site</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul The UnixCentric</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewgifford.com/2005/10/29/ms-web-office/#comment-3246</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul The UnixCentric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 21:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Subheading from that MarketWatch link: "...Big, but slow..."&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yep. That's M$ in a nutshell. Hope they aren't going to slow down or break the whole damned Internet. :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subheading from that MarketWatch link: &#8220;&#8230;Big, but slow&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep. That&#8217;s M$ in a nutshell. Hope they aren&#8217;t going to slow down or break the whole damned Internet. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewgifford.com/2005/10/29/ms-web-office/#comment-3245</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;MarketWatch &lt;a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7B466C68C2%2D7DE1%2D4214%2DA49B%2D72C4957F869E%7D&#38;dist=rss&#38;siteid=mktw"&gt;says&lt;/a&gt; (via &lt;a href="http://archive.scripting.com/2005/10/31#When:8:46:51PM"&gt;Scripting News&lt;/a&gt;) it's going to happen. We should know more later today.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MarketWatch <a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7B466C68C2%2D7DE1%2D4214%2DA49B%2D72C4957F869E%7D&amp;dist=rss&amp;siteid=mktw">says</a> (via <a href="http://archive.scripting.com/2005/10/31#When:8:46:51PM">Scripting News</a>) it&#8217;s going to happen. We should know more later today.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul The UnixCentric</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewgifford.com/2005/10/29/ms-web-office/#comment-3241</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul The UnixCentric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, that aspect of it is a good thing -- but my distaste has nothing to do with Windows or Micro$oft. For once. :-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The removal of possession &lt;em&gt;(of application, data)&lt;/em&gt; from the individual is just another step in removing individual privacy rights. Look at the problem with online email &lt;em&gt;(like that aberration called Hotmail)&lt;/em&gt;, and also governmental appeals to have the right to invade more and more individual privacies -- put these three all together, and you'll get the idea.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can't see that being a good thing in any light.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that aspect of it is a good thing &#8212; but my distaste has nothing to do with Windows or Micro$oft. For once. :-)</p>
<p>The removal of possession <em>(of application, data)</em> from the individual is just another step in removing individual privacy rights. Look at the problem with online email <em>(like that aberration called Hotmail)</em>, and also governmental appeals to have the right to invade more and more individual privacies &#8212; put these three all together, and you&#8217;ll get the idea.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t see that being a good thing in any light.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewgifford.com/2005/10/29/ms-web-office/#comment-3240</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 05:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I'd think you'd &lt;em&gt;like&lt;/em&gt; this trend, considering that it gives people one less reason to "need" Windows.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d think you&#8217;d <em>like</em> this trend, considering that it gives people one less reason to &#8220;need&#8221; Windows.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul The UnixCentric</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewgifford.com/2005/10/29/ms-web-office/#comment-3237</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul The UnixCentric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 00:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Eww; and I'm not even saying that because of Micro$oft.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So... I guess I'm the only one on earth who absolutely &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;HATES&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; this trend of distributed applications and web-based everything. Sad.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eww; and I&#8217;m not even saying that because of Micro$oft.</p>
<p>So&#8230; I guess I&#8217;m the only one on earth who absolutely <strong><em>HATES</em></strong> this trend of distributed applications and web-based everything. Sad.</p>
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